Take Ohtanis arb for an example, $30MM for next season. They are paying the suite price and hoping that they save the 10% fee for buying it at the window. Atlanta Braves. Maggie Whitener, The Fiance Of Spencer Strider To quote Barney from the Simpsons, Not again!. $43m for nothing. Hard to see that from a FO willing to let Freddie walk and who have Vaughn Grissom, a natural SS, ready to go. Strider will make $4 million by 2025, with $1 million going to each of the next two seasons. Inigo Montoya: You keep using that term, Super Two. It doesnt mean what you think it means. 2023 Pre Arb year $1 million (yes, MLB minimum is $700k) His service time was at 2 years and 49 days and he did not qualify for Super 2. In a time in baseball when contact is of the least importance and shifts were used at an all-time high, why players refused to adjust to defensive alignments. Look at the alternative, pay for TOR stuff like DET did in the offseason with Rodriguez (5 years/77M) and he was AWOL for much of the season in the 1st year of his deal. Or theyre being proactive to keep future payroll in check and balanced out so they dont get caught with uncertain arbitration costs in the future. Spencer Schwellenbach, RHP 10. Worst case scenario is he becomes Matt Harvey. Now this young arm will feel a bit more comfortable coming out on short rest, out of the pen, whatever the case may be knowing he has some security next year and beyond. Overall, Strider broke out with 131 2/3 innings of 2.67 ERA ball and a 38.3% strikeout rate that paced all big leaguers who pitched at least 100 innings. They have his first two free-agent years one locked in and the other as a club option. They lost in the playoffs, winning 101 games isnt a collapse. Noah Syndergaards arb years: $3M (2018), $6M (2019), $9.7M x 2 (2020 & 2021). Have the Braves not noticed how many of their young pitchers have fallen apart after 2-3 years over the last two decades? The risks are present, but the reward is fantastic, not to mention that it gives you the inside track in a few years to talk a further extension. Does AA hypnotize these guys agents when theyre in the waiting room? Sure, its risky, but theyve gotten some historic numbers in a rookie season already from Strider. The Braves pay their 1.66 mil per season regardless for that. Spencer Strider 6 hours ago Yesterday the Atlanta Journal- Constitution published an interview with Braves chairman Terry McGuirk in which he describes how the Braves financial success, since the new stadium, has allowed them to keep increasing their payroll and he projects that this will continue in 2023 and beyond: https://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-braves/how-the-braves-built-a-well-oiled-machine-that-could-be-here-to-stay/AMCXFCKNK5FATJ3WHTFDWRQCPY/. 3rd ARB year was supposed to be $21.5 MM. Hopefully he also didnt mean Scherzer, one terrible wildcard game from an elite pitcher like him still doesnt make him crap. Data Provided By That means his annual salary isnt even going to be justifiable when factoring in the cost of living! The Prime games are not really an inconvenience since I have Prime. I dont mute your kind, but I wont bother reading your insult laden rants in the future. Strider is represented by Frontline. My point was that Soto would be worth at best $140M in excess value, he tried justifying the $200M by saying it was the premium for trading for a star. Using multiple accounts on the same thread shows a much bigger disconnection from reality. Thats hilarious. THIRD BASE Nolan Arenado, 3B, STL. If he reaches his potential, sure if you want to believe that, but not on a long-term deal for a 30-year-old pitcher. What's the Dodgers' plan at shortstop? ET, many of these same folks were discussing an extension that could keep the rookie sensation in Atlanta until at least the 2028 season. OR they could extend him now for what amounts to 7/87. In Braves speak, that means hes hitting FA. Makes it more sustainable to retain this core group long term. Players dont sign team friendly contacts because they enjoy where they are. If you think he deserves his contract, you are as tone-def as you are capable of catching a pun! Theyll probably lose even more money on those years than they gain with the discount on the one or two free agent years, which probably would only be worth $30M max per season even if everything goes mostly right for him. Strider wouldve only counted around $750K toward the luxury tax in 2023, had he not signed this extension. The stuff I read in spring training had the Braves, Phillies and Marlins all ahead of the Mets who were 78-84 the year prior and spent money on a bunch of 30 some odd year olds. Strider will be a Super Two if he stays on the MLB roster all of next season, so that would have raised his prices in arbitration by a huge margin. Position players tend to be better values when extensions are considered, especially in terms of injury risk. They are respected as a team on the field, but not as a market. Hard throwing pitchers get seriously injured a lot. 2023 Fantasy Baseball Mock Draft: Salary cap (auction) results for Head Shouldnt you still be ranting about how the Division race was over in May? On the other hand, thats a trivial concern when juxtaposed with the benefit of having so many high-end players signed for the next six-plus seasons. Hell be paid a $4MM salary in 2025 before jumping to $20MM in 2026 and $22MM in 2027 and 2028. He should call Chaim Bloom and give him instructions. FF fired his agent. Lets not get silly and act like the Braves ran away with it and were disrespected. $1M (2024) Dont know what thats worth, but its not nothin. I think its even more encouraging within you're organization to know your going to have that nucleus every year.. They may as well take it. I think thats not quite that straightforward. The Atlanta Braves have placed right-hander Spencer Strider on the 15-day injured list with a strained left oblique muscle. Im curious how the bonuses would impact arbitration. AA is saving money collectively and signing his core players. Many historical player head shots courtesy of David Davis. Draft I guess writers should just pick the Braves for ten years because they won a World Series with a 88 win season. If Baez and Story sign for 140 add in the shift going awaythe market for Dans is at least 140 plus. Sorry for the confusion. Why pay him more than the ML minimum hes going to get next season (if he even makes the ML roster)? This might be the worst extension overpay I have ever seen. Much of the play-by-play, game results, and transaction information both shown and used to create certain data sets was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet. Spencer Strider made his Major League Baseball debut in 2020 with the Mississippi Braves, the Gwinnett Stripers, the Augusta GreenJackets, and the Rome Braves. He might not be worth what hes asking. Really only has 6 seasons in the ML. Scherzer isnt aging crap but it was one bad Wild Card game plus losing that pivotal start vs. ATL (he gave up 6 HR in his final 2 starts (inc. WC game) when he gave up only 13 HR all reg season). So as to illustrate this, Jacob DeGroms arb years: $4M (2017), $7.5M (2018), $17M (2019) Late in February, Spencer proposed to Maggie Whitener, and the two are now happily married. SUMMARY 2022 Career WAR 3.7 3.7 W 11 12 L 5 5 ERA 2.67 2.69 G 31 33 GS 20 20 SV 0 0 IP 131.2 134.0 SO 202 202 WHIP 0.995 1.000 Strider and AA both said theyd been talking about this extension since early September. 2. What exactly do those look like? As for your tech savvy argument, its a very simple. If you dont like my reference, find a better one to contradict my point! If they had done the same with Jurrjens or Hanson or Wood this wouldnt have gone well. Who are the Braves going to play at SS the 25% plus of the time Correas on the bench w/his bad back? Grissom has about as much chance of playing a capable ML SS as a fan picked at random when they come through the gate. If thats the case, how do you justify to Max Fried that hes only making $22.5M through his first 5 years in the league? Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Saturday, March 4, 12:52AM. Should Atlanta Braves' Michael Harris II or Spencer Strider be ROY @bhambrave If you dont know what Super Two means dont try to talk about which players are or arent one. Owen Murphy, RHP 2. . The Silver Strider is a nickname for Spencer Strider. Not to sound too negative, since there are also positives in his hitting profile, but Id have concerns going too long term with him. Good luck finding someone who doesnt think hell get back to those heights at 25 years old. . Everything can be considered in arbitration. Other then that what aging crap did we sign? But not to worry, I did that for you. Puts more AAV up front versus the higher luxury tax hit theyd eventually get if they went year to year through arbitration and/or later extensions. His salary will jump to $4 million in 2025, $20 million in 20216 and $22 million in 2027 and 2028. You have? He was on the major league roster all season. Striders dominance has positioned him as one of the two favorites for National League Rookie of the Year honors, as he and teammate Harris are widely viewed as the presumptive first- and second-place finishers in an extremely strong year for rookies (both in the NL and in MLB as a whole). Product executive enabling intelligent decisions through enriching and enhancing data and delivering it in awesome products. Cant believe how many time the site posts the same comment. Austin Riley was signed to a 10-year, $212 million contract, and Michael Harris II was given an eight-year, $72 million deal. He is likely to finish 2nd in NL ROY to teammate Michael Harris II, which means both get credited with a full year of service for 2022 regardless of whether they were brought up late or stayed on the roster all season. Braves' Spencer Strider: Sharp to begin spring training Thats fair. Use Fried as an example who might make roughly $40 mil through arb in total. So start 4 years of arbitration at $9-10 million. Theres some degree of risk for the Braves in laying out such lengthy commitments, even if each looks quite team friendly in a vacuum. Strider will be Super Two because he will be top 2 in ROY voting and that earns him and extra year of service time in the new CBA. Speak for yourself. I believe 2027 is the final year of that infamous TV deal that hasnt been the cash cow many other lesser franchises have benefitted from. Agree on braves. He hasnt even extended Fried yet, and this reeks of him knee-jerking his reaction to Fried probably not wanting to talk about extensions and him wishing he wouldve done something a couple years ago. Smith-Shawver, RHP 6. AND he sells a lot of tickets and merchandise. Do they really think someone is going to go subscribe to Apple TV (one of The Worst of the streamers) just to watch? I mean, kudos to the Braves for being aggressive and theyre certainly taking on risk of injury / under-performance, but seems some of the extensions the players have signed seem light. Striders the first pitcher in MLB history to strike out over 200 hitters (202 Ks) and give up less than 100 hits (86.) Bauer was coming off a season with a 4.19 ERA and had a 4.36 ERA in parts of 6 MLB seasons when he first hit arbitration. For reference, Kris Bryant was a lock to be a Super Two because he finished 2017 with 2 years and 171 days of service time. Im confident youve been subjected to it countless times. I get it on the scheduling side by MLB but come on. I agree. Meanwhile, those games arent even broadcast on local cable, since you again just have to watch on Apple TV instead. You also dont know whether he took the extension in order to lock up significant money, as a hedge against injury, or because he and his agent wanted to advance pitcher salaries for others. Why dont you whine about how well the Braves evaluate, draft, and develop their players while youre trolling. They might not be able to re-sign Swanson because of this deal adding $15M to the cap due to his cap adjusted salary and if they do, they no longer can pursue DeGrom or another big named pitcher. If Swanson signs a $110-115MM extension, hes probably leaving at least $40MM on the table. They're projected to have a league-high $61.7 million in salary-cap space, . They tended to evaluate the Mets as having the better team, but not by a lot, but were going (fwiw) with experience and so forth. Sure, they have control of Fried/Wright (even via arb), but Strider is the first long-term arm. Someone mentioned Max Fried as a comparison, but Fried barely pitched his first 2 seasons in the majors, and had only a small fraction of a season in 2020, and hasnt seen his last 2 arb awards in any case. He may spend the season in AAA trying to learn how to play defense. Hope you enjoyed this seasons episode of LOLMets Choketober and made the appropriate notation in whatever book you refer to in your user name, the book of hurt I assume. Spencer Strider's salary is $710,000 per year, which includes a $0 signing bonus. Braves have got it going on. Spencer Strider - Salary History - The Baseball Cube Login Here. As much as the Acuna and Albies deals were highway robbery they still havent been good cause theyve been hurt or half what they were. Strider, 24 later this month, will earn $1MM both in 2023 and 2024. Im sure it will be reasonably priced. Updated On January 29, 2023. October 6, 2022: Atlanta Braves activated RHP Spencer Strider from the 15-day injured list. Prior to his MLB career, he played for minor league teams such as Augusta GreenJackets, Rome Braves, Mississippi Braves, and the Gwinnett Stripers. Comedic relief regularly inserted by some sneaky good commenters. I used Harvey as a buyer beware caution notice. Definitely one of the best pitchers in the game but when it truly matters he crumbled. On the one hand, while contracts like this Strider extension are cause to celebrate in the long-term, they do also create some shorter-term considerations. anybody signing Swanson for 6/120 will regret it. (Age 22-338d, Now sign 7! Theyve got Fried under control through 2024. Spencer Strider was drafted by the Cleveland Indians in the 35th round of the 2017 MLB June Amateur Draft from Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN) and the Atlanta Braves in the 4th round of the 2020 MLB June Amateur Draft from Clemson University (Clemson, SC). The Braves seem like they are making all these extensions so their front office can spend the next 4 winters in Bermuda instead of working. Strider kept it humble when discussing the extension with 'Bally Sports': The Atlanta Braves will begin their NLDS series against Bryce Harper and the Philadelphia Phillies on Tuesday. Strider took the mound to start . But if we are anywhere near the same cutoff after next season that we were after 2021, Strider will miss Super 2 status by 110 days roughly or almost 4 months of being on the roster. That earned him a six-year extension worth $75 million. Tyler Wells gets his first start of the spring against Spencer Strider. Spencer Strider has played for 1 team, the Atlanta Braves. The lowest the cutoff has been since 2009 is 2.115. Saying the Braves arent respected is to play the victim for victims sake. The Padres have about $57MM on the 28 books between Manny Machado and Fernando Tatis Jr., while the Rangers have about $51MM on the books between Corey Seager and Marcus Semien. So he still would not have been a Super Two. Meanwhile the Mets toss money at aging crap. https://community.fangraphs.com/velocity-and-the-likelihood-of-tommy-john-surgery/. I told them but they didnt listen to me. Vons king of the hill when it comes to Phils fans on here. It would definitely be an anomaly if the Braves hit on all this extensions. Lets go Juan Soto. even $50M. As a Yankee fan, Im much more resentful of the Yankees keeping their YES Network off of all of the streaming services except Direct TV. Besides, adding a couple extra free agent years at close to market value on a later extension is absolutely worth it if he is indeed for real. The nicest condos in New York with less than half that sq. Strider becomes the fourth young Braves star to be extended this season alone, joining first baseman Matt Olson (eight years, $168MM), center fielder Michael Harris II (eight years, $72MM) and star third baseman Austin Riley (ten years, $212MM). Baseball will become a joke as far as competition is concerned. My response was, him being a star just makes it worth risking the $140M in assets! I imagine that will be Soto and Boras target, yeah. J.R. Ritchie, RHP 3. Contact doesnt increase as bat speed wains, hand eye coordination deteriorates, and eye sight worsens. But blowing a 7 1/2 game lead on August 7 and losing 6-7 to the primary opposition is absolutely a choke job. Of course, thats certainly not all the Braves will do this winter. Darius Vines, RHP 5. Give Swanson credit for being healthy for the last couple of seasons. Many observers have compared Strider's pitching style to Houston Astros ace Justin Verlander. 2027: $20-22M. Spencer Strider rumors, news and stories [Top 20+ latest articles] Strider has coerced whiffs on more than 37 percent of the swings taken against his fastball in the upper-third of the zone this season. Only long term deal we signed was lindor who is young in his prime. Braves need to sign Fried. Mets fans are horrible (imo) bc all they do is whine BUT they show up and support their team (while still whining). He wouldve made around $1M per pre-arbitration year in 23 and 24, anyway. He only hit the first two weeks he was up. Look at them now. $35M (2028 FA year). If you do not allow these cookies we will not know when you have visited our site, and will not be able to monitor its performance. To see the rest of the Spencer Strider's contract breakdowns, & gain access to all of Spotrac's Premium tools, sign up today. Now ya have your CF 1b 2b 3b rf and strider all signed to under market value contracts and still have money to sign swanson and dip into free agent pool. Yes a 2.67 ERA is better then a 2.27 ERA. Early career extensions are designed to give the team a discount and especially not overpay for their arbitration years. Spencer Strider only appeared in one game for the Braves last season and was not very well-known around the league. He lost both. $35 million is reasonable figure for FA. Cano signed with Seattle, the Mets were just dumb enough to trade for him. If he spent the whole season on the major league roster he is definitely NOT a Super Two. Braden Shewmake, SS 13. Strider retired all three batters he faced Wednesday while throwing his first simulated game of spring training, Justin Toscano of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports. So what? 7 Cubs pitchers combine for no-hitter vs Machado, Padres, Top moments from Brady, Manning, Jordan and other athletes hosting 'Saturday Night Live', Fantasy baseball rankings, projections, strategy and cheat sheets, Rangers' Leclerc to miss WBC with neck injury, Rockies' Rodgers may need surgery, '23 at risk, Rojas to withdraw from WBC, stay with Dodgers, Braves' Strider (oblique) to have start skipped. It wouldnt be fair to the rest of the players. People who dont have money always assume having money means being reckless with it, but those that have wealth and maintain their wealth, never spend it frivolously. Im sure Ill get roasted with comments on letting Shewmake run with SS but Im trying to be reasonable. Id hate to be him if he becomes human in Atlanta over the next 6 years. The Mets and Braves won the same number of games in the season, and the same in number in October. In Texas, the nicest home I can find in the Dallas area is 20,000 sq ft for $14M. Disclamer: the number about Spencer Strider's Instagram salary income and Spencer Strider's Instagram net worth are just estimation based on publicly available information about Instagram's monetization programs, it is by no . Obviously Strider is going to take the guaranteed money because that takes care of his family for generations. The alternative is not extending anyone and going to find TOR (top of rotation) pitching on the free agent market where the failure rate is MUCH higher partially because the age is so much higher, along with the rate of pay. Your proof of value starts with if. ~$9M (Super Two, Arb1) The rotation is so strong that 39-year-old Morton, who re-signed for one year and $20 million, could possibly. If Striders arb awards are similar, the Braves are then getting his 2 FA years for 26m, total, without having to buy a long deal including Striders decline. I also would like to see how Strider does next year before extending him. Does he hit enough to play left field? MLB, Minor, College and summer league baseball stats along with biography, draft info, salary,transactions, awards and more! Generally not a fan of BTVs valuations, and your comment that the site is a general reference for trade values followed by They are off on a lot of things is a solid reason why I believe the site shouldnt be used as a factual source. Worry about your own team of aging stars and average players. Please logout and login again. Essentially they trade the risk that he gets hurt and produces nothing in one or more years for the free first free agent year, and the discounted second free agent year assuming hes healthy. You dont. Swanson is better then Baez. His love of the New York night life and illegal substances didnt help his career along either. Now if the Braves had Kris Bryanted Strider he would have finished 2024 with just under 3 years of service time and would have been a Super Two that offseason, not the 23-24 offseason. Its just false. A.J. SPENCER AGUIAR. Thats more than just the best rookie season ever. Youre the one who seems to be carried away w/your attempts to belittle Strider. The Yankees seem to be possibly the least fan-friendly franchise in baseball. Theres a reason Cohen has the money he has, and it isnt by being a fool October? Thats $25 mil. It does not credit a player with two years of service time if they start the season on the ML roster AND place top 2 in the ROY balloting. Why? Contracts are not based on the back end, they area based on value as a whole. Total Zone Rating and initial framework for Wins above Replacement calculations provided by Sean Smith. As a positional player I would be more likely to bet on myself but as a power pitcher I would take a deal with life changing money at my first opportunity. Right?? Plenty that rep for other teams. @MJ Youve omitted a year of Sotos arbitration. Especially not when youre right, lol. Hopefully Strider has a great career and its not an issue, but if it goes poorly thats not going to be a fun contract to have on the books in 2026-2028. Talks a lot about eating correctly, training well, and staying mentally fit. If the Rangers offer $250M to live in Texas with no state income tax, that saves as much as 5-10% off the top. $35M (2028 Option). Period. Just like it wont be a collapse when the Braves get smoked in the playoffs. Even if you assume he will get less than Soto for whatever reason, then $7+mm, $14+mm, $22+mm, and $30+mm is extremely reasonable. Thought I was being clear there C Yards. If that happens, he will have 2 years and 3 days of service time. He would have gone there if the contract offer was higher. League figured him out quickly. Doesnt take a genius to see which one is better for the team. Be the first one to comment on this story. Talk about betting on your good judgment! They average the length of the deal. Strider played collegiate summer baseball for the Falmouth Commodores of the Cape Cod Baseball League in 2018. The braves do like to buy out arbitration years where they can. Anyone who signs Judge will definitely regret that deal in a couple years! Read the article, be not thought of as a moron or an imbecile who is led by his ignorance and unwillingness to gain knowledge, which should be pursued despite the clear lack of capacity for you to store in in your brain! Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC.
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